r/canada 2d ago Silver 1 Helpful 1 Wholesome 3 Facepalm 1

Every aspect of Canada's supply chain will be impacted by vaccine mandate for truckers, experts warn COVID-19

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/every-aspect-of-canada-s-supply-chain-will-be-impacted-by-vaccine-mandate-for-truckers-experts-warn-1.5739996
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u/Melindiel Québec 2d ago

Oh look, more good news.

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u/tehepok10 2d ago Silver Table Slap

At least this policy makes sense. It would be terrible if the COVID and the Omicron found a way into Canada!

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u/JaggedyEaredJackXI 2d ago

Would be terrible if food and goods also found their way into Canada as well! /s

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u/holysmokesiminflames 2d ago

Right?

Like, come on people. Just grow and harvest your own produce and hunt for your meat.

Also, ever heard of a loom? Make your own damn clothes.

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u/ahuiP 1d ago

I always say grow a hamburger in your backyard, it’s not that hard

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u/twopillowsforme 1d ago

Damn, it was -45 here last week, shoulda planted earlier

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u/Fidgeting_Goldfish 1d ago

Loom ! Loom! Why are you Looming over my choice of fiber arts! I'm heck'n content spinning my yarn and knitting you into a cocoon prison for suggesting a luminous idea their boy.

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u/holysmokesiminflames 1d ago

Sounds cozy, can I wfh in there?

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u/Fidgeting_Goldfish 1d ago

The wool so thicc no wifi signal can penetrate.

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u/samacora 2d ago

Elon musk is in a room somewhere pulling one out to his automated driverless trucks right now

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u/humanreporting4duty 1d ago

Don’t forget his tunnels for the robit trucks!

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u/themaincop Canada 1d ago

Spoiler: they don't exist

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u/Reasonable-Algae-459 2d ago

Totally, remember when the Soviet Union cut off food supplies to Ukraine? That was for the greater good! /s

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u/Marbados 2d ago

Hilarious.

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u/Voyager5555 2d ago

Honestly the best news would just be a fucking asteroid destroying the planet with no warning.

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u/oneHeinousAnus 2d ago

If there wasn’t any warning it wouldn't make news though.

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u/grasslover69 2d ago

No news huh. Asteroid sounding better and better

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u/FalcorDexter 2d ago

The best news is no news at all.

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u/RedactedTitan 2d ago

Dont look up!

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u/followtherockstar 1d ago

I see what you did there

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u/glitter_poots 1d ago

Sorry to break it to you, but all ELE level asteroids in our system have been clocked already, find another dream

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u/Reasonable-Algae-459 2d ago

If a meteorite hits the Parliament Building, I wouldn't even be mad or upset. It might spare us a lot of misery.

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u/strawberry-bubble 2d ago Burning Cash

Are we going to see the grocery stores packed again with people panic buying? I remember that happend before the lockdown in 2020 and it was ridiculous

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u/argentman 2d ago

Who can afford to with already inflated prices?

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u/businessmanzzzzz 2d ago

Boom! Problem solved /s

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u/Maplegum 2d ago

Starving to death woooooooo!

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u/enki1337 1d ago

I did need to lose a bit of covid weight...

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u/Phuzzy_Knuckles 1d ago

Sure beats the hell out of getting a cold! B-b-b-boost me please!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/ClusterMakeLove 2d ago

Don't people normally panic buy before something happens? We're already in the shit. Like, 1/8 people positive.

If things get scarce now, it's because too many people are isolating to stock the shelves. But that's a problem that can't last long.

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u/i_donno 2d ago edited 2d ago

Oh yeah the panic buyers are really logical /s

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u/entarian 2d ago

luckily they're still trying to sell last year's toilet paper on kijiji

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u/CleverNameTheSecond 1d ago

By using their credit cards, duh.

Seriously though debt is why inflation isn't breaking people yet, it'll come later with interest.

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u/argentman 1d ago

And interest rates are set to go up in 2022 as well... along with everything except our salaries...

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u/Summit_Creative 1d ago

You will own nothing, and you will be happy /s

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u/47Up Ontario 2d ago

You know there are people out there with 2000 unopened packs of toilet paper from 2020 that will go out buy up all the fucking toilet paper as soon as any hint of supply shortage.

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u/NE55IN 2d ago

Which is odd because all TP is made locally. Too big and inexpensive to be worth shipping internationally

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u/Redbulldildo Ontario 1d ago

Which is actually what set the hoarding off. A plant in China was caught in the outbreak, and so they wouldn't be producing toilet paper, so all the locals stocked up. Then people heard about it and followed suit without knowing why it was happening.

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u/terminalmemelocity 2d ago Helpful

I spend $20 on a bidet and still on the same package of TP. Plus I now have a sense of superiority over the paper scrubs, savages.

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u/arazok 2d ago

The ass is the only part of the human body people can get shit on and be content to just wipe it with a piece of paper

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u/WAS-NOT-WAS 2d ago

I mean, yeah, but I'm not picking up fries with my ass cheeks.

Usually.

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u/doubled2319888 2d ago

Pussy

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u/knifensoup 2d ago

You pick up fries with your pussy?

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u/doubled2319888 2d ago

You dont?

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u/Preface 2d ago

Not since we got banned from McDonald's

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u/viridien104 1d ago

Sir, this is a Wendy's

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u/Dull_Sundae9710 2d ago

That’s why your only fans is a failure

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u/BellaBlue06 2d ago edited 2d ago

I was lucky to get a bidet toilet seat attachment in Dec 2019 for Christmas. I wanted one anyway and it ended up being great timing. I got a fancy ish one maybe $200 on Amazon. It heats up the water and the seat and has a remote and you pick the type of spray and can adjust it. It's not a handheld hose or anything. Worth it.

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u/JoGooD11 2d ago

Bidets are great, much better than toilet paper

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u/fiendish_librarian 2d ago

Hell yes. Used them while in Australia and am wondering why they aren't more widespread (heh) here. I wasn't even staying anywhere special, just a run-of-the-mill flat in a typical Sydney neighbourhood.

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u/47Up Ontario 2d ago

I can't see an issue with freshening up your stinky area's a couple times a day

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u/ScienceForward2419 2d ago edited 2d ago

Here in Nova Scotia they panic buy when it's going to snow that night, so I am assuming yes for us.

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u/Todesfaelle 2d ago

Storm chips are important though.

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u/ScienceForward2419 2d ago

We have really shitty jokes around here too.

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u/Disaster_External 1d ago

No there are actually chips in NS called storm chips...and they sell out every storm lol they are a mix of different flavors by covered bridge which is a NB chip company.

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u/raptor-claw_98 2d ago

Not again... BC just went through one because of highway closures caused by floods. It was worse than the original outbreak

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u/NE55IN 2d ago

Chilliwack was the worst of it, hard to find milk and other basics. Surrounding cities weren’t as bad, just big lineups, shelves were half empty but still had milk, bread, eggs, etc. Beginning of pandemic buying was way worse, trust me.

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u/iamnos British Columbia 2d ago

The Okanagan was hit bad too. We were having issues finding milk, eggs, bread, and produce. Fortunately it only lasted a couple of weeks. I do wish grocery stores had been quicker to put in limits on how much people could buy.

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u/h_danielle 2d ago

Chilliwack was one of the only places where panic buying was slightly rational… the city was completely cut off. I had friends in Abbotsford say people were clearing out grocery stores but the city was still accessible from the West

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u/hoser89 British Columbia 1d ago

Not in Vancouver. Packed shelves everywhere during the floods.

in 2020 it was worse

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u/WeWantMOAR 2d ago

It was definitely not the worst. The beginning of the pandemic was worse. None of the stores I went to during the highway closures were out of food or anywhere remotely close, unlike at the beginning of the pandemic when you couldn't find pasta, broth, packaged noodles, etc...

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u/BustermanZero 2d ago

Shops across the interior of BC had the same problem after the highways got washed away. Heck, I still have problems buying eggs...

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u/nagsthedestroyer British Columbia 2d ago

Happened again in Vancouver when the floods tore up the highways

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin 2d ago

That reminds me, I need to buy 3 brazillion rolls of toilet paper.

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u/InEnduringGrowStrong 1d ago

3 brazillion rolls of toilet paper.

I'm assuming a Brazillion rolls is Brazil's land surface are worth of TP rolls, because storing them in water is just dumb.

Brazil covers a total area of 8,514,215 km2 (3,287,357 sq mi) which includes 8,456,510 km2 (3,265,080 sq mi) of land and 55,455 km2 (21,411 sq mi) of water.

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Brazil

The average measures of a modern roll of toilet paper is c. 10 cm (315/16 in.) wide, and 12 cm (423/32 in.) in diameter, and weighs about 227 grams (8 oz.).

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_paper

So, 12 cm diameter is an area of 113cm2 per roll.
Packing identical circles in a hexagonal pattern would be the densest pattern at 90.7%.

8,456,510,000×0.907÷0.0113 = 678,765,891,150.44 rolls
3 Brazillion, I assume would be filling landmass, but stack 3 high.
So 2,036,297,673,451.3 rolls give or take.

Cheapest bulk pricing I could find was about $33 for 96 rolls.
$699,977,325,248.88 or 699.977 billion $.

Even Bezos doesn't have this kind of money.

Source: Bored, can't sleep

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u/Beerden 2d ago

You know we are. Last week one of three highway routes into my town was closed for planned avalanche and mudslide control that was announced to last only one day. It lasted less than a whole day. Again, shelves in the grocery stores cleaned out as if it was a disaster.

I suppose this over-reaction is because of previous flooding in my province that cut some communities off for about a week. So many people are in perpetual anxiety survival mode these days.

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u/Zealousideal_Vast799 1d ago

The government changed their mind three times in two days just before the deadline

What a freaking mess

These are people’s lives they are screwing with

I feel sorry for how we have treated truckers through this. Closing bathrooms was a disaster

CBC interviewed the head of the women’s trucking federation, she set them straight and stood her ground, very well done, worth a listen

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u/Secret-Nebula-1272 2d ago

It appears the vaccine mandate goes both ways. U.S. regulators have announced plans for a similar mandate, widely reported to take effect Jan. 22.

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u/Calm-Put-6438 2d ago

Meanwhile schools have no regulations!

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u/xXxInTheFleshxXx 2d ago

Not sure, where you are in Canada, but my district in BC just sent out a memo requiring proof of vaccination for all staff. So I know it’s recent, but at least some schools now are getting increased regulations

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u/trancen 1d ago

Force a truck driver to have the shots and yet the airport is WIDE open to anyone who wants to come in.. I'm pretty sure the number of people arriving in 1 hr in Toronto is well above the number of truck drivers enter the country in a week .

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u/billysnow12 1d ago

It was the same bullshit when covid started too, Lets lockdown but lets keep the china border open. Like wtf lmao

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u/jzach1983 2d ago

What I don't understand is this only applies to American truck drivers, not Canadian.

Edit: nevermind, they clarified and it applies to all.

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u/nutano Ontario 2d ago

Not toilet paper! That is a domestic product. As a matter of fact, we are net exporters of TP! So we'll have more TP for everyone here!

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u/Sngglbnny 2d ago

Happy wiping! Wipe away until the Anusol stock-prices skyrocket! To the moon!

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u/IlCanadese 2d ago Silver

Getting harder and harder to believe this country's issues aren't being created by design at this point. There's only so much incompetence I can handle before the pattern recognition portion of my brain gets too loud.

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u/GoodChives Ontario 2d ago

I genuinely wonder what’s discussed behind closed doors. There is absolutely zero upside to this policy, Trudeau knows that, yet implements it anyway. Why?

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u/ThaFaub 1d ago

They seem to want compliance more than anything else.

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u/RingoTheFisherman 1d ago

What's that those conspiracy theorists say? "It was never about the virus"?

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u/Inconceivable76 1d ago

Yesterday’s conspiracy theory becomes today’s fact.

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u/EmphasisResolve 2d ago Silver

Trudeau was born privileged and has zero grasp on reality. Plus, he’s just not very smart.

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u/minlatedollarshort 1d ago

Canada basically elected Gilderoy Lockhart.

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u/Azure1203 2d ago

Especially if they first approve, then back down, then approve it again.

The heck is going on anyways.

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u/bravado Ontario 2d ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if none of his advisers have ever had a real job making and shipping things that need trucks and materials. They strike me as very disconnected from the private sector.

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u/baldeagle86 1d ago

They probably don’t even know how much a gallon of milk costs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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u/i_am_the_North 2d ago

"from the private sector." *from reality

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u/werecat666 1d ago

I've worked in the private sector, they expect results.

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u/oneeighth Verified 2d ago

why would it be by design? I work in distribution for a major canadian company and the issues are not "by design" but rather "by incompetency"

  1. Truck drivers are in short supply right now. full stop.
  2. truck drivers TEND to be less likely to get vaccinated
  3. Because of the shortage of truck drivers and their unwillingness to get vaccinated they have not had serious pressure to get vaccinated from their job because someone will always be willing to overlook vax status to save their business

Yet somehow in >2 years nobody has thought through the end game of this. Its insane incompetence.

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u/xenidee45 2d ago

Truck driver here working for a "Major" - Yellow, ranked #5 in the USA by revenue. We have a Canadian division. All Canadian drivers were told to get double vaxxed by Jan.22, (the USA deadline) or be put on indefinite leave of absence.

There are still anti-vaxxer hold outs. Some of them have been working for the company for 20+ years.

I'm double vaxxed.

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u/oneeighth Verified 2d ago

Canadian drivers were told to get double vaxxed by Jan.22, (the USA deadline) or be put on indefinite leave of absence.

yep that was exactly our approach. The issue we are having is yes its only about 10% holdouts (also all long tenure people) but 10% of our drivers gone would really hurt

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u/motherfailure 2d ago

The "by design" part is that they're going to lock all unvaccinated truckers rather than accepting the truth that it will cause way more harm than good.

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u/Max_Thunder Québec 2d ago

The majority of people in hospitals aren't even of working age, so you have to wonder what's going on here that the benefits are worth so much more than the harms.

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u/monsantobreath 2d ago

Don't look to individual intent when you should be critiquing the systemic issue that this is.

The system creates dynamics that individuals either struggle to resist or are selected for to be compatible with operating within.

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u/draysok 2d ago

The ‘system’ is put in place and run by individual people and groups— which is just several individuals put together with common interests.

Individual intent is arguably more important than the systems they put in place.

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u/feverbug 2d ago Helpful All-Seeing Upvote Ally

Two years in, one of the most vaccinated populations in the entire world, and yet we are still paranoid about letting in the odd unvaccinated truck driver, which could potentially lead to devastating supply chain problems and further damaging an already weakened economy.

This is so punitive and pointless. Our politicians are truly brain-dead, people have lost all sense of reasonable risk assessment.

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u/Reggae4Triceratops 2d ago edited 2d ago Silver

So which is it? "The odd trucker" or "enough truckers to create a supply chain problem"?

Edit: "The CTA reports that approximately 10 to 15 per cent of drivers in the industry are unvaccinated. Laskowski says this mandate would therefore take an estimated 12,000 Canadian truckers and thousands more from the U.S. off cross-border shipping routes." Interpret that however you'd like.

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u/PhenomenonYT 1d ago

"The CTA reports that approximately 10 to 15 per cent of drivers in the industry are unvaccinated.

Working in the industry it feels more like 80%

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u/wd668 2d ago

Important to note that politicians on both sides of the border are to blame, since both countries are imposing the same idiotic rule.

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u/Various_Contact_5672 Verified 2d ago

They aren't the same, though.

The US rule doesn't apply to Americans. They can go to Canada (if Canada lets them in) and come back without a PCR test or quarantine.

Canadian truckers returning to Canada have to quarantine, or pay something like a $5,800 fine.

In practice, the application will be mostly the same, but that's only because Canada will turn around unvaccinated truckers.

The US isn't dependent on Canadian goods to nearly the same degree, and Canadian truckers are vaccinated at a higher rate.

The end result is that this will slightly hurt America, and likely be devastating to Canada.

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u/bunnymunro40 2d ago

Hey, didn't somebody once suggest we shouldn't build subdivisions all over our farmland, or something? I have a hazy recollection.

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u/HenryWinklebean 1d ago

Good job canada! Lets shoot ourselves in the foot in the name of safety! I swear this government is actively trying to ruin this country.

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u/tyler111762 Nova Scotia 2d ago

ight. so. is it just me or does "long haul truck driver" you know, that jobs where you sit in a cab alone. seem like one of the few jobs where vaccine mandates just...dont seem like they will do anything?

am i missing something?

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u/BigNickDipples Verified 2d ago edited 2d ago

This, like Quebec's curfew, is not based on any sort of science. It is 100% pure politics and the stubbornness and arrogance of leaders – and it will be all Canadians who pay the price for it.

*Part of purpose of having vaccines was to help stem transmission. Against Wild, Alpha, and Delta, they were (on average) about 70% effective at blocking infection & thus transmission. That is all out the window with Omicron. Even boosted, breakthrough infection is still high and transmission is too.

The purpose of having various mandates was to control spread and lesson the burden on the already fragile healthcare system. Looking around, it's 100% clear that horse has left the barn. Omicron is everywhere.

Keeping the unvaccinated US truck drivers out, and forcing the unvaccinated Canadian drivers to quarantine at this point won't help curb spread, but it will significantly damage our supply chain and it punishes every single vaccinated Canadian anyway.

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u/Crooks132 1d ago

Come on, everyone knows Covid is only active at night

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u/tri_and_fly 2d ago

These people work, eat, and sleep in their trucks. How much of a risk are they exactly?

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u/jormungandrsjig 2d ago Silver

You forgot *fuck

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u/aladeen222 2d ago

And piss.

It's the way of the road.

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u/Rayd8630 2d ago

Way she goes, Bubs.

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u/swampswing 2d ago

When you factor lot lizards into equation, things sound a whole lot better. Imagine the training the immune systems of those drivers got. Covid is probably a bush league virus for them.

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u/shpiffeh 2d ago

I have never heard the term "lot lizard" before and it suddenly makes those weird Fall Out Boy lyrics make so much more sense

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u/No-Monk-8390 2d ago

What lyrics?

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u/shpiffeh 1d ago

The song is Disloyal Order of the Water Buffaloes. The lyrics are generally incomprehensible but there's something about "highway truck stop stalls, lot lizard scales cool your nightlife moods"

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u/jakpaw 2d ago

Truckers look at herpies like a skateboarder looks at a scab on his knee

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u/fiendish_librarian 2d ago

Who will think of the truckstop hookers?

/s...but not really.

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u/toronto_programmer 2d ago

I used to be very pro test and vaccine across the border but my recent experiences have shown me that it is such an absolute shit show of useless political theatre that I don't care anymore

Scenario 1: My girlfriend went to the US for a week to visit her brother around Christmas. Her brother tested positive for COVID the day before she was supposed to fly back but she already had her negative PCR test from the day before. She checks with CBSA and they tell her as long as she had the test she could fly back home no problem. She spent a day at the US airport, 5 hours on a plane, and cleared customs at Pearson without a single person asking for vaccination status. She was also given no random test, home test or instruction to isolate.

Scenario 2: I have a TN visa and had to drive to Buffalo today to do something related to a new job offer. I did an antigen test yesterday to enter the US. Drove right to a rapid PCR test clinic in Niagara Falls and then my appointment. All said and done I spent maybe 1 hour in the US and 55 minutes of it in my car. When I arrive at the border to drive home they absolutely grill me and give me a HOME TEST KIT despite the fact I had a negative PCR test from an hour earlier.

What a complete fucking waste of time and money

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u/Panda_bc1234 2d ago edited 2d ago

What's been going on at the border has been a total clown show for quite some time. They have a small army of nurses administering covid tests over video chat but don't have enough nurses to staff hospitals? They have a test shortage in Canada but they're handing them out like candy to fully vaccinated people at the border?

It's all just political pandering and a waste of everyone's time.

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u/tychus604 2d ago

Completely agree.

Not to mention, waiting at a test center either involves spending hundreds, waiting an unknown amount of time, or being around a large line of likely sick people. So to fly we have to be around a bunch of sick people?

Also, we didn’t, but it would have been laughably easy to fake. There was no validation of the test we provided.

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u/Max_Thunder Québec 2d ago

It's the sort of decision that erodes people's trust in the government and galvanizes the unvaccinated. Maybe this is what the government wants, they want to maintain a group of people they can put all the blame on for as long as possible.

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u/juniorspank 2d ago

As a vaccinated gun owner, all I can say is at least I'm not the boogeyman for now.

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u/bdoll1 1d ago

Remember that Nova Scotia RCMP informant with the fake car, illegally smuggled US guns, and the cops shooting up the firehall with no inquiry? They'll just bounce around between the two scary groups once they build up fatigue on the other.

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u/Squeeks627 2d ago

Enjoy it while it lasts. Everything will be our fault again in May when the amnesty expires.

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u/sharkk91 2d ago

the hoops we have to go through in Canada to buy a gun...does anyone actually give you shit for it? I understand with the states where you can just drop in and buy one

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u/is_anyone-out_there 2d ago

That’s exactly what they want, they know they’ve fucked up over and over. Not out of malice, but sheer stupidity. We’re dealing with a corrupt government that is filled with nepotism and back scratching. They need a scapegoat or else everyone will catch on that they’ve done the bare minimum to mitigate this pandemic because of their own ineptitude.

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u/TakeCareOfYourM0ther 2d ago

Divide and conquer. Never let a good crisis get unexploited.

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u/scrivener_nemo 2d ago

If there's one thing this federal government has shown us time and time again, it's that they don't care about rising prices and their effect on the middle class.

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u/Imogynn 2d ago

If there's one thing this federal government has shown us time and time again, it's that they don't care about rising prices and their effect on the middle class.

FTFY

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u/pothosandpoems 1d ago

But unvaccinated foreign nationals are still welcomed in with open arms. This makes no fucking sense.

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u/InsignificantOtter13 New Brunswick 1d ago

Politics, not health...

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u/god_among_gods 1d ago

Lmao at Canada. Getting worse each week.

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u/CromulentDucky 2d ago

Of all the stupid decisions so far, this is easily the worst. Literally no upside of any kind.

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u/hotpants13 2d ago

The worst so far*

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u/theborgs Québec 2d ago

Of all the stupid decisions so far, this is easily the worst.

I see you don't live in QC...

Curfew

Stores must be closed Sunday

Vax pass required to shop at Canadian Tire

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u/supa74 1d ago

I don't understand the shit that province is doing. Sounds like it's on the road to a police state.

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u/JoGooD11 2d ago

No, the worst is the covid pass, this won't go away unless people realise this isn't about protecting us.

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u/wd668 2d ago

I don't know, cancelling life-saving surgeries to make sure those patients don't accidentally get COVID is quite close.

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u/MulletAndMustache 2d ago

Yeah I'd rather get the life saving surgery and covid than no life saving surgery.

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u/deepfri3dpickles 2d ago

Who is approving these decisions…

Who looks at the situation we’re in and thinks “ya this is a great solution, just what we need right now”.

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u/CondorLane 2d ago

If a vaccine mandate causes serious supply chain issues then it’s not beneficial to implement it, even if it means more omicron. Increased covid transmission is obviously the lesser of two evils here. Food prices massively going up will cause far more misery.

Our leaders desperately need to start thinking about how much they’re killing the patient with their medicines.

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u/Rambler43 2d ago

The good news never ends.

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u/GoodChives Ontario 2d ago

What a disaster. Anyone with two brain cells can see this being a huge issue. Leave it up to the clowns in office to consistently make the wrong decisions.

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u/Nezfen 2d ago

Funny how people are suddenly mad at the government and not the unvaccinated once it affects them too.

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u/TheFrenchMustard 2d ago

Hahaha that's what I was thinking. Really showing their true colors.

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u/coolhatguy 2d ago

This is just another tool for the government to blame the unvaccinated instead of helping the health care systems

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u/DarrylRu 2d ago

Trudeau and his cabinet ministers wont be impacted personally so they don't care.

Its all petty politics and we are the ones who will suffer.

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u/Zuranger 2d ago

Jesus fuck how many times can one country shit the bed?

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u/PuCapab 2d ago

Every time you think they shit the bed enough they come up with a brand new turd both at the federal and provincial level

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u/polkadotfuzz 1d ago

You've gotta be fucking kidding

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u/lvl1vagabond 1d ago

I'm already waiting 3 weeks more than I usually do for items because of the B.C. floods? Soon I'll be waiting 2 months because Trudeau is a fucking retard who doesn't understand how communities work, how supply chains work or how regular people live?

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u/trash2019 1d ago

The Canadian government welcomes high inflation, if anyone hasn't noticed yet.

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u/V1cT 1d ago

Government is creating catastrophe so they can save you from it and be rewarded with more power for doing such a good job.

Never thank these people, hold them accountable.

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u/nocturnalchickens Nova Scotia 2d ago

Grocery shopping is about to get a lot less fun

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u/CreatedSole 2d ago

It was fun for you???

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u/nocturnalchickens Nova Scotia 2d ago

It was never fun in the first place, but now it'll just be sad

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u/cancerouskiyou 2d ago

Work for a small company in Ontario and cross border shipping costs are up 25% today...its like Trudeau wants a recession 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/55cheddar 1d ago

At this point, the 'by design' folks are starting to sound sane.

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u/KingRabbit_ 2d ago

I don't want to hear one proponent of this policy whining about inflation or the cost of living ever-the-fuck-again.

In your righteous zeal to punish a bunch of idiots, you've just co-signed a policy that is going to make life more expensive for everybody and could very well lead to food shortages this winter.

Guess what, the food on the shelves of your local Whole Foods didn't just materialize there. It wasn't beamed down there from a starship. They didn't grow your quinoa in the back of the store.

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u/0humansperson0 2d ago

They told us it was coming a long time ago. Not sure about other companies but our company was ready for this and just a few drivers are waiting for their vaccine appointment to keep driving across the border. The timing is a bit bad because grocery stores already have some supply issues and that certainly won't improve it but I guess with the spike in cases that will get much worse in the future anyways.

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u/TomFPark 2d ago

It's hard to believe this isn't an attack on the Canadian population.

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u/Oberarzt 2d ago

And the politicians will blame the unvaccinated and everyone will eat it up and the government will continue making bad choices

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u/United_Function_9211 2d ago

Nobody wants this. No one asked for this. If anyone agrees that truckers who sit by themselves are high risk they have the option to not support by not purchasing anything arriving from a damn truck.

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u/R-35 2d ago

Canada is done....this is all by design. It's like the government is trying their hardest to make the cost of living go up. There was already a shortage of truckers...their solution is to make the shortage even worst.

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u/ChaosTao 2d ago

Everything about the direction this Country is heading right now is greatly concerning.

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u/R-35 1d ago

For sure...I came to Canada over 20 years ago as a war refugee...now I see the writing is on the walls. Anyone who doesn't have backup moving plans in place is foolish.

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u/Different-Radio-5899 1d ago

Anyone not actively planning on leaving is foolish. Personally I think we have 5 yrs at the minimum, 10-15 at the max.

Thie government has a 90% approval rating, the CPC is in shambles and the NDP only wants to be JT's lapdog. So needless to say 2024 is an LPC win and by the time they're kicked out in 2028 the damage will be done.

Just looking at the housing crisis they're causing, the average home will be ~$2M in 6 years at the current rate. Just imagine what that'll do to rental prices. We'll have tens of thousands of homeless people.

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u/ConfectionNo613 1d ago

So the vaccine minimizes symptoms but doesn’t stop getting COVID or transmission and these people aren’t Canadians that would clog hospitals. And we’re opening public schools for kids with no contact tracing or closures. This makes no sense and is dumb

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u/Alzaraz 2d ago edited 2d ago

Our gov't are full of a bunch of fucking morons.

I can't believe some of you people actually vote for this idiot.

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u/sux9h 2d ago

I’m pro science, anti mandate. 2 dosed. Let’s not hand the keys of our nation to some self interested pharma execs please

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u/GoodChives Ontario 2d ago

Hahahaha too late.

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u/Yaspan 2d ago

Hyperbole, truckers still need to get paid and it is an industry where they are all undercutting each other already so the ones that can't cross the border will continue on working domestically, which will leave then more opportunities for the ones that are vaccinated to do the cross border runs.

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u/tux68 2d ago

We need to start a list of all the crazy Covid zealots who loudly shrieked, belittled, dehumanized, and generally catastrophized this entire process. When this is all said and done, we need to make sure those people are not in a position of power in private or public life. And I don't mean it should be done vindictively, it's just that they've demonstrated how much harm they can cause, and how ill-equipped they are to lead. We need to do it to protect society from this happening again.

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u/Darrenmac26 2d ago Wholesome

Read a thing from the UK (don't remember what it was from, take my word for it, or don't)

But they basically said like "we wanted to use scare tactics to make everyone comply and get the vaccine without question. Problem is. It worked too well, and people got too scared. Now we have a different kind of pandemic, called worldwide panic."

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u/BonEchoCanuck 2d ago

It's almost as if they are trying to intentionally destroy the economy and the country.

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u/Mike_strikes 2d ago

No more mandates

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u/miansaab17 2d ago

This is just fucking stupid. The harm this will do to our economy far outweighs any benefits. We need a vaccination to cure stupidity that is rampant across our government officials.

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u/sektabox 2d ago edited 2d ago

OK people, don't get caught with your pants down and no toilet paper around.

Though, with possible food delivery issues, you may not need as much toilet paper as the usual.

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u/liberocinderace 2d ago

Try a bidet, it's a life changer. Though even a bidet is going to face shortages due to the same issues.

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u/cosmogatsby 1d ago

So, why are we doing this again? I can’t keep up anymore, who’s benefitting from this decision?

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u/ffwrd 1d ago

And it will solve exactly nothing.

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u/Concealus 2d ago

Why? The virus is already here.

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u/WarsGunsAndVotes 2d ago

This is actually brain dead

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u/simpinforsirvelos 2d ago

As a business owner, fuck this government and everything they’ve done and haven’t done that makes our lives harder.

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u/mikebpechousek 2d ago

What is wrong with you, Ottawa?

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u/fiendish_librarian 2d ago

The septic imbeciles running this country have moved from simple incompetence to pure and open zealous degeneracy. I have no explanations left as to what's happening other than that. The naked face of this country's rot has been exposed.

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u/mouzie17 2d ago

Our prime minister is a complete arrogant fool out of touch with reality and people’s struggle to survive. Inflation is already out of hand but virtue signalling idiot continues to do what the idiots who voted for him like to do. Absolutely nothing

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u/eth696969 2d ago

I was in Arizona for a week. God was it good to get away from this ridiculousness...

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u/tearfear 2d ago

So when the supply chain collapses are we all going to blame the unvaccinated for exercising their rights? Or the government for taking them away, destroying our economy in the process? Asking for a friend.

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u/Far_Bandicoot5935 2d ago

The anti vaxxed of course, because as a country with the highest rate of vaccinations in the world and a populace at almost 90% vaccinated, its that pesky minority forcing the government to make life terrible, if they would just throw away their rights already everything would go back to normal in no time /s

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u/IamZIM__ 2d ago

Yep food, clothes, Amazon orders etc all will be impacted! Restaurants will be impacted because there shipments will be delayed! This will definitely not be good and hopefully they change there mind and decide to let the mandate go!

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u/optimus2861 Nova Scotia 2d ago Silver

They just doubled down on it yesterday. Said yes it's going ahead, full speed, no change. They seem to think American unvaccinated truck drivers who may make cross border runs will give a damn what Trudeau says. They're about to be proven very wrong.

The vaccine zealotry in this country is akin to cult behaviour.

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u/JuanP22 2d ago

And if you question anything about the measures or vaccine you get instantly attacked and banned off many platforms now we are living in crazy times

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u/Diaperpooass 2d ago

You don’t need to be an expert to understand that everything goes on trucks. If the restrictions hold this will be one of the all time bone head self inflicted wounds in Canadian history.

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u/BookDore85 2d ago

I worked in logistics as a broker and I'll tell you 95% of cross border freight was handled by Canadian carriers. This will definitely impact the supply chain to an extremely large degree.

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u/Canadasparky 2d ago

I dont want to vote conservative. I'm a union construction worker. I usually vote ndp. And I know if I vote cpc it's not in my best interest for my career. But its getting to the point where I'm starting to worry that if we don't get the liberals out of power I won't have a career to try to keep here.

Moves like this will directly effect the middle class. Groceries are already up 20%. At what point do we ditch covid restrictions for the future of the country? I'm super lost in this now its out of control.

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u/deepfri3dpickles 2d ago edited 2d ago

Great. I work for a local Chamber of Commerce and have people crying on the phone every day asking when we will get more rapid test kits because their businesses are dropping like flies. It is fucking heartbreaking. I assume this will push it back even further.

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u/jacklychi 1d ago

So a driver alone in his car for 95% of his work is the next top priority for vax mandates? how would you explain that?

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u/billysnow12 1d ago

Its on purpose. I'm vaccinated myself and don't see the point at all

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u/OculusZoom 1d ago

Who the fuck thought this was a good idea

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